What will you do this new year?

Happy New Year - 2013

May you accomplish some of your dreams this year..... Nelda

2012 Top 10 Genetic Genealogy Happenings‏

2012 Top 10 Genetic Genealogy Happenings‏

 from Roberta Estes's Blog:

 http://dna-explained.com/2012/12/28/2012-top-10-genetic-genealogy-happenings/

 

 She states "A fun look back at 2012. It's been a very busy year in genetic genealogy."

Visit her blog to find out more....

 

From Dr D Digs Up Ancestors

Well, as we head towards the Mayan end of the calendar and science astronomy saying the world and planets will aling with a black hole deep in space, we have a major upheaval in the world of genetic genealogy too. 

To say the least this is an interesting month.

Dr D Digs up Ancestors has written a wonderful blog on the earth shatter change in genetic genealogy.  Here are a few of his observations and a link to his blog so you can read it all.

Seismic Shift in Genetic Genealogy

It seems like the entire landscape of genetic genealogy has shifted in the last week. What magnitude on the Richter Scale were the shakes that led to this amount of widespread and almost simultaneous change? Only time will tell as to which of theses events will have the most lasting impact.

After discussing the changes at major companies like 23andme, Familytreedna, and National Genographic, he goes on to talk about how  these changes will effect the results we have already determined.

Although, it is a blog for the specific surname Dowell, his incite is informative.  Go read his blog, follow him as he tends to give general information too.

Link:  http://blog.ddowell.com/2012/12/seismic-shift-in-genetic-genealogy.html

HAPPY HOLIDAYS What ever yours are.

Nelda

BRCA1 and BRCA2

"The Supreme Court today granted a writ of certiorari (meaning they agreed to hear the appeal) in Assoc. for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics, Inc., et al., the famous case centered on patents covering two human genes: BRCA1 and BRCA2."

The full article is at the URL is between the parentheses and can be copied and pasted into your browser if the link breaks across lines:

( http://www.genomicslawreport.com/index.php/2012/11/30/supreme-court-to-rule-on-patentability-of-human-genes/ )

Good reading...

Skin cells - tell all

DNA's Genetic Mosaic Revealed By Skin Cells

There is an interesting report at http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/252994.php

Here is just part of it....
"The prevailing wisdom has been that every cell in the body contains identical DNA. However, a new study of stem cells derived from the skin has found that genetic variations are widespread in the body's tissues, a finding with profound implications for genetic screening, according to Yale School of Medicine researchers."

Lately  there have been very interesting advances with Stem Cells. We have the future to look forward to.

Nelda

 

About.com Genealogy

Hi,
Has anyone signed up for about.com Genealogy?  Kimberly Powell writes some interesting and informative articles on genealogy.

Here she gives you a challenge (Copied verbatim)

We've all used census records to research our families, but have we really gleaned everything possible from these records? Have we found each family member in every available census during their lifetime? Included state and local census records in our research plan? Used all available census substitutes, including city directories, tax lists, and voting lists? My challenge to you this week is to revisit your research on at least one ancestral family and make sure you've covered *all* of your census bases!

 

Now this is an excellent idea. Have you found records for each of your families..?? Pick one and start working.. I suggest that you go sign up for her newsletters

 

  http://co116w.col116.mail.live.com/default.aspx#n=475296861&fid=1&fav=1&mid=f49fbf54-38b7-11e2-971a-00215ad84ba0&fv=1

 

 You can also follow her on facebook and twitter

Happy hunting

Nelda

 

Happy Thanksgiving

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours

From me and mine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DNA tests - what are they?

Hi,

I have created a FREE website to help people understand DNA testing better and I thought I would share it with all of you.

Genetic Genealogy - http://www.geneticsand.us

As a DNA project administrator for some surname projects at FamilyTreeDNA.com I like to share information about testing. If any of you who have tested share any of my project surnames, your welcome to join my groups as well. You can do this via the join button on your personal page at FTDNA.

Now to explain the testing, you have to have a little  understanding of  DNA. Each cell of the body has 23 pairs of chromosomes, in the cell nucleus.  In the cell  but not in the nucleus  is mtdna. Notice here, the 23 pairs of chromosomes do  not include  mtdna.  

When, the egg is fertilized the egg has 23 chromosomes and the sperm has 23 chromosomes. One pair of the chromosomes is used to indicate the sex of a child. The egg always carries a X chromosome and the rest are autosomal chromosomes. The sperm carries either the Y or the X chromosome and the rest are autosomal chromosomes.  Now if it is a boy child, you have a X and a Y for the pair of sex chromosomes.. Being there is only one “Y”… it cannot combine or recombine with every generation.  So the Y chromosome basically stays the same with few mutations (changes)  over generations. So a man’s parental (father/son) lineage can be proven by the results of the markers used in the Y-STR test.

Here sperm is larger then normal

There are different markers used for different tests. The markers used for Y-DNA testing normally are called Short Tandem  Repeats (STRs) and single-nucleotide polymorphism  (SNPs – pronounced Snips). SNPs normally are used for population migration. Where STRs are used for current genetic genealogy (basically).  

single-nucleotide polymorphism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-nucleotide_polymorphism

short tandem repeat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_tandem_repeat

There are three basic tests for genetic genealogy

1.    the testing of Y-DNA, this test uses the STR marker and defines the direct paternal line. 

To define:  it is your father his father his father back a few hundred thousand years or more.  

 More information below.

2.    MTDNA  this test uses the SNP markers and is used to define the direct maternal line. 

To define: this is the child, the mother, her mother, her mother  back a few hundred thousand years or more.   

More information below.

Only your differences from the Cainbridge Standard are reported for this test. Although, 

there are different levels to testing the MTDNA you do not get the entire picture with out the Full test. 

More information below.

3. atDNA tests the autosomal chromosomes, it uses the SNP markers. Every person has autosomal 

chromosomes to include the individuals who provided the Y chromosome and the mtDNA, 

so atdna comes from both the Maternal lineage and the Paternal lineages – Everyone in your ancestry. 

The test shows segments on the different chrosomes , that you share with others indicating a relationship. 

With this test the terms IBD and IBS are used. IBD means identical by descent and IBS identical by state.

atDNA  consists of the 22 autosomal chromosome pairs, these are part of the 23 pairs of nucleus 

chromosomes.   The 23rd pair is the sex indicator pair and consists of the XX for females and 

the YX for males. 

MTDNA  In human beings, the mitochondrial DNA is a single, small, circular chromosome. 

It is not part of the 23 pairs of nucleus chromosomes. Many of them live inside the cell but not in the 

enclosed nucleus. They have a different job. MTDNA directs the creation and use of energy in each 

individual cell.

Where nucleus chromosomes have 3billion, 300million plus a few hundred thousand base pairs; 

MTDNA only has about  16,569 base pairs

The cell nucleus

The X chromosome is tested by some companies at the same time as the atDNA. It uses the SNP marker and althought is part of the sex indicator pair  does not define the maternal line. The X passes back and forth between a man and a woman, its line of descent is different and needs a chart to help you understand who you got it from. Like the “Y” and “MTDNA”, it has a particular path. See the X chart here:  http://geneticsand.us/x-ch.htm

All chromosomes, the 23 pairs and MTDNA, have STR and SNP markers. In the testings,  paticular parts of the chromosomes are being tested; thus the base pairs being used have names and numbers. .

There are many other types of DNA testing. To name a few: Paternity Testing or CODIS 

(criminal ID) Testing.  Although not typically thought of as a genealogical test, they both aim to identify 

relatives through STR testing of autosomal chromosomes.

The test to use depends on the information you want to find out. I suggest that you join the Newbie DNA list (YahooGroups). Then  ask questions and then decide what test you want to take. The only real complaints I have seen about genetic genealogy have come from misunderstanding what a test will revel. So ask questions, decide what answers you want then decide what test to use.

In addition for the Y chromosome DNA test.

The first to understand is that to find a Y-DNA match, the haplogroup of the pair of results being compared must match.. Example a man who has R1b haplogroup is not related  (with in the time frame of the use of  surnames about 100 – 2000 yrs)  to a man who has a Ib1 haplogroup.

Hapolgroups, depending on the testing company can be estimated by the first 12 STR markers of a Y-STR  marker test. (normally test names are  just referred to by the number of markers tested as in 12  –25-36-44-67) To actually prove a haplogroup or to find a subclade of a haplogroup; a haplogroup test  normally referred to as a deep clade test should be preformed. Also some companies test for particular  haplogroup markers.

Haplogroups, are the identifying terminology, for where you sit on the tree of humanity, it starts off with  haplogroup Adam.. and after changes (mutations) in his SNPs a new haplogroup is created.. so over the  few  hundreds of thousands  years, developed  many different haplogroups. Some are descent and some are  lateral  developments.  That is why a man who has R1b and a man I1b are thousands of years apart from a common ancestor.

Questions? Ask.. (oh, male haplogroups are named differently from the mtDNA haplogroups)

Now getting down to the very easiest, the Y-STR test used for genealogy. I said before that they are  basically referred to (or called/named) by the numbers.  The 37 marker, YSTR test is the one I ask the  members of my surname projects to use.  It has enough Fast mutating and slow mutating STR markers to  make it a good identifying amount, the more markers the better but normally 37 is enough. What they do  here is introduce a primer to the dna and count the reactions (spikes). The amount of reactions at a particular  place (marker) is the result (there is an official name but it is still just a result)

To prove or disprove a relationship you compare the amount of the result to the result of the other person.   So example: man A -  marker DYS393=12; man B – DYS393=14  the steps of difference (genetic distance  - GD) here is 2, all differences are accumulative.  At 37 markers, in my opinion; more then 4-5  steps of difference between two men makes the common ancestor before of the use of surnames..

See: http://gilpingenetics.us/gc/charts2.htm  for examples

 Next is MTDNA – 
mtdna is a chromosome but not part of the 23 pairs. It has a different job, it is primarily  to produce and  direct energy for the cell. Its mutations are very slow. A test of the MTDNA can have  medical information.

MTDNA is in both the cell of the egg and the sperm. But the mtdna of the sperm is primarily there to give  energy to the sperm to swim to the egg and impregnate it.  Normally all the mtdna in the sperm is used up, when it isn’t the egg destroys the remainder. Thus you inherit the mtdna in your cells from only your mother.  That is the reason it can be used to trace the maternal lineage. MTDNA, is different from the other  chromosomes in that instead of being a string it is circular, and it is normally tested in HRV1 and HRV2 and  the coding zone. I was told HRV1 and 2 start  basically if you were looking at a clock  - at 11:59 and end at  12:06 the rest is coding zone..

It is hard to use MTDNA for genealogy  because the maiden name changes with each generation where a  man’s surname is passed  to each generation. I said hard, but it is not impossible, there have been many  positive results.  You look for matching maiden names  and area locations.. Then you put the findings  together. William Hurst of the Genealogy-DNA mailing list at rootsweb.com is the local expert.

When testing MTDNA the results are very different from what you get with Y-DNA testing. There is a  standard called Cambridge Reference Sequence, your results are compared to this and only the differences  are reported. So in this case you compare differences.

Mtdna – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mitochondrial_DNA_haplogroup

Now lets discuss the newest testing.. X and autosomal testing.

First, you inherit atdna from all your past ancestors, second you might think you inherit 50% from each  parent. NOPE but, it averages out to 50%… since the X chromosome and the autosomal chromosomes  combine and recombine  randomly, (x to x; auto to auto) the  further away from the common ancestor the lower the chance you have  a measurable segment remaining from that ancestor.

One problem that I see with this testing is that a negative result of a measurable segment from a common  ancestor does not mean your not related, just that the part inherited is not measurable at this time.  (You  never know – this is cutting edge science, five years ago.. this testing was not even imagined.)

Now here is some additional information from some very knowledgeable people..

Females have two X chromosomes, one inherited from the father and the other  from the mother, so a connection could be from either side of the family.
Males have one X chromosome, inherited from the mother. SMGF has a nice  animation showing the inheritance pathway:
http://www.smgf.org/education/animations/x_chromosome.jspx
 
Since not all ancestors can make a contribution to the X, you can eliminate  at least some of them as possibilities. See the diagrams on Blaine  Bettinger's site:
http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/
 
http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2009/01/12/more-x-chromosome-charts/
 
Note that the percentages are averages. A man's X chromosome can be exactly  the same as his maternal grandfather, exactly the same as his maternal  grandmother, or a mixture of the two, which works out to be average of 50%. I  find the demo Mendel family at 23andMe helpful in visualizing this. There are  three grandchildren and three grandparents, so you can look at different  combinations. If they don't show up in your list of people you're sharing with,  go to Account | Sharing | Example Profiles. Or create a guest membership.

It will help you to find the common ancestor by phasing  the X (in other words, figure out who contributed what).  This page helps tell how to do that:
http://www.isogg.org/xjourney1.html
 
If your genealogy program can print an ahnentafel chart, I've prepared a  file with the relevant ahnentafel numbers. Females should start the ahnentafel  with themselves; males should start with their mothers. Then you can go  through the ahnentafel report and delete the records of the people who could
not be the source of your X.
http://dnacousins.com/AHN_X.TXT   - Ann  Turner

I hope this helps you in understand testing, and that if you test you enjoy the venture.

Nelda

Eggs Trade Genes

The Scientist Daily is another excellent on line magazine...

 Not this kind of Egg!

 

Eggs Trade Genes By Ruth Williams Swapping chromosomes from one human egg to another could eliminate mitochondrial DNA mutations that cause disease. When thinking about using MTDNA for genealogy.. wonder would this change the person's MTDNA haplogroup?  What is your opinion? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

EMP missles?

SmartPlanet Daily
an excellent on line magazine!

 

Meet the missile that wipes out everything electronic

Boeing is working on a missile that uses microwaves to target electronics, without harming people.

By Charlie Osborne

Electrical Magnetic Pulse??  if your not protected for that will wipe out all electrical equipment.. Computers smart phones... ect... lights.. I'd rather have that type of war then nuclear warheads..

Read about it...

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/meet-the-missile-that-wipes-out-everything-electric/3650?tag=nl.e660&s_cid=e660

Interesting...it sounds like that new TV series revolution??!! come to life!

 

Paisley Caves, south central Oregon -

Clovis, Western Stemmed and Paisley Caves

By K. Kris Hirst, About.com Guide

 Pre-Clovis appear to have been more broadly-based hunter-gatherers, and it is hypothesized that they entered the continents along the Pacific coastline some 15,000 years ago. One of the problems with pre-Clovis is there hasn't been a recognizable lithic technology that looks much different than non-Clovis Paleoindian and American Archaic. What the discovery of Western Stemmed at Paisley means is, maybe that's because Pre-Clovis wasn't really that much different from American Archaic, and maybe that's because Pre-Clovis is ancestral to American Archaic, and non-Clovis Paleoindian, and (oops) Clovis Paleoindian, too.

READ THE ARTICLE AT:
http://specials.about.com/service/newsletters/archaeology/1342465200.htm

About.com is a very interesting website that gives you information on many different subjects....Including Genealogy and DNA testing


Nelda

JoGG announces a new editor: Dr. Turi King‏

Copied - "The editorial board of the Journal of Genetic Genealogy (JoGG) is very pleased to announce that Dr. Turi King has accepted the position of editor.

Dr. King's PhD thesis topic was The relationship between British surnames and Y-chromosomal haplotypes  and she is also co-author (with George Redmonds and David Hey) of the book Surnames, DNA and Family History. Dr. King is currently a Research Associate in the Department of Genetics at the University of Leicester, where she is the manager for an interdisciplinary project The Impact of Diasporas in the Making of Britain. The scope of that project makes her familiar with many aspects of genetic genealogy. More details about her background and interests can be found at http://www.le.ac.uk/users/tek2/tek2.html

Dr. King will assume her duties in the fall. In the meantime, prospective authors may send manuscripts to me DNACousins@aol.com so they will be in the pipeline when she begins the process of sending articles out for peer review. The current guidelines are in Instructions for Authors, although Dr. King is at liberty to revise these. Our goal is to make JoGG a respected and even a favored destination for authors and readers alike."
Copied from Dr. Ann Turner / ISOGG@yahoogroups.com


A Good Journal to read!

nelda

Researchers find clue to male infertility

A study led by Dr. Amy Johnson, a postdoctoral research associate working under the direction of institute director Dr. Steven Zeisel, has found that a genetic variant, called a single nucleotide polymorphism or SNP, is associated with human sperm motility. Between 5 percent and 10 percent of men are affected by this variant.
The SNP commonly occurs within the gene for human choline dehyrdogenase and can influence the amount of choline someone needs to eat. Choline, a nutrient used to form cell membranes, is found in eggs, meats and wheat germ, among other foods.

Very Interesting and you can read the full article at:
 http://www.salisburypost.com/NCRC/051512-UNC-researchers-make-male-infertility-discovery-qcd

My Gilpins are we related? #5

Generation 6

77. Frank Marion (G-1a)6 Eskew (Sarah Ann (G1a)5 Gilpin, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 11 Sep 1876 in Carmel, Hamilton Co., Indiana.  He married Dora Alice (Dovie, G1b) (Brown) Eskew, born 7 Oct 1877 in Carmel Hamilton Co., IN; died 4 Dec 1955 in Carmel, Hamilton Co., Indiana.

Notes for Frank Marion (G-1a) Eskew
    Genetic information: (Gilpin lineages only)
Eskew Father's  Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown
Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-dna haplogroup  R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com).
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231a, Unk-??a, Don-1a
~~~~~~
Name: Frank Eskew
Home in 1900: Clay, Hamilton, Indiana
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
BirthPlace: Indiana
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouses's Name: Dovie
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Eskew 23
Dovie Eskew 22
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1920 Census:
Name: Frank M Eskew
Home in 1920: Delaware, Hamilton, Indiana
Age: 43 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Dove A
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 916
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank M Eskew 43
Dove A Eskew 47
Loring Eskew 19
Arlie E Eskew 16
Ruby M Eskew 13
Chester M Eskew 9
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Notes for Dora Alice (Dovie, G1b) Brown
Name: Dovie Eskew
Home in 1900: Clay, Hamilton, Indiana
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
BirthPlace: Indiana
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Spouses's Name: Frank
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Eskew 23
Dovie Eskew 22
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Children of Frank Marion (G-1a) Eskew and Dora Alice (Dovie, G1b) Brown were as follows:
    87    i    Loring (G-1a)7 Eskew, born 1901 in Indiana, USA.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin lineages only)  Eskew and Brown Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown  Gilpin Y-dna haplogroup  R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com). Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231a, Unk-??a, Don-1a
~~~~~~
    88    ii    Arlie (G-1a)7 Eskew, born 1904 in Indiana, USA.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin lineages only)  Eskew and Brown Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown  Gilpin Y-dna haplogroup  R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com). Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231a, Unk-??a, Don-1a ~~~~~~
    89    iii    Ruby M. (G-1a)7 Eskew, born 1907 in Indiana, USA.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin lineages only)  Eskew and Brown Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown  Gilpin Y-dna haplogroup  R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com). Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231a, Unk-??a, Don-1a ~~~~~~
+    90    iv    Chester Marion (G-1a)7 Eskew, born 5 Jul 1910 in Carmel Hamilton Co., IN; died 15 Jun 1985 in Fernandia Beach, Nassau Co., Fl.  He married Carol Louise (G-1b) (Ankerman) Eskew.


82. Bessie L (Mae, G1a)6 Gilpin (John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 1891 in Marceline, Chariton Co.,  MO; died 1959, died of breast cancer in Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., Kansas, USA; buried Evergreen Cemetery, Ft Scott, KS.  She married abt 1924 Joseph Badger (G-1b) Meyers, born 1886 in Nevada, Missouri, USA; died 1957 in Fort Scott, KS; buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Ft Scott, KS, son of Thomas J Meyers and Mary J. (Badger) Meyers.

Notes for Bessie L (Mae, G1a) Gilpin
    Genetic information:
Gilpin Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Cupp Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Y-Haplogroup unknown
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, Cup-1a
~~~~~~

    Children of Bessie L (Mae, G1a) Gilpin and Joseph Badger (G-1b) Meyers were as follows:
+    91    i    Margaret L. (Peggy Ann) (G1a)7 Meyers, born in Missouri, USA.  She married Albert Hestwood (G-1b) Carson.


83. John Raymond (G-1)6 Gilpin (John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 28 Oct 1893 in Marceline, Chariton Co.,  MO; died 16 Nov 1973 in Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., Kansas, USA; buried 19 Nov 1973 in Ft Scott National Cemetery, Ft Scott, KS, 80 yrs, 0 months, 19 days.  He married Helen (G-1b) (Stalnacher) Gilpin.

Notes for John Raymond (G-1) Gilpin
    Genetic information: Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Y-Haplogroup
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, Cup-1a
~~~~~~
    
    ssn:510-09-8146
~~~
In 1920 John and wife, "Hellen" are living at 410 Lowman Street in Fort Scott, Kansas. John is working as a "Pipefitter-Round House".
~~~
In 1930 John, wife "Helen" and daughter Martha are living at 2060 Sharon Ave in Detroit, Michigan. John is a "tool maker-auto plant".
Living in Detroit, Michigan in 1932.
~~~
Following Obituary transcription by Nelda Percival Jan. 20, 2003:
"Gilpin, John Raymond: Obit Fort Scott Tribune, Ft Scott, KS date 17 Nov 1973 (Saturday): John Raymond Gilpin, 80, 111 Lowman died Friday at Mercy Hospital. He was born Oct 28, 1893 at Marcelene, MO, the son of John F. (John T.) and Martha Gilpin. Mr Gilpin was a machinist by trade and a veteran of World War I and a member of the Methodist Church. He is survived by a daughter, Marth J. Hunt, Birmingham, Mich; a brother Ernest Gilpin, Fort Scott, and two grandchildren. Services will be at 2 p.m. Monday at Earl's Memorial Home, Rev. A. F. Collins officiating. Burial will be in the National Cemetery. (Ft Scott National Cemetery, Ft Scott, KS.)"
END OF OBITUARY
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Buried in Fort Scott National Cemetery, Fort Scott, Kansas Plot: 14 0 66.

    Children of John Raymond (G-1) Gilpin and Helen (G-1b) Stalnacher were as follows:
+    92    i    Martha Jo (G-1a)7 Gilpin, born 10 Aug 1921 in Fort Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; died 1 Jun 1984 in Santa Barbara, CA.  She married Jack (G-1b) Kemp.


84. Ernest Thedore (**G-1)6 Gilpin (John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 9 Dec 1901 in Chase, Rice Co. KS; died 3 Jun 1975 in Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; buried 5 Jun 1975 in Evergreen Cemetery, Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; 73 yrs, 5 months, 24 days.  He married (1) on 29 Apr 1922, divorced  Margaret Lousia (Maggie, G-1b) (Gardner) Gilpin, born 11 Sep 1902 in Fort Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; died 3 Jul 1970, daughter of William A. Gardner and Mary Catherine (Nelson) Gardner; (2) on 31 Mar 1936 in Ft Scott, KS; married by JP C.E.Hulett, probate judge, divorced  Nellie (**Bonst-1a) (Bonstein) Gilpin, born 12 Nov 1916 in Pawnee, OK; died 16 Jun 1974 in Seattle, King Co., Washington, USA; buried in McCleary City Cemetery, McCleary, Grays Harbor Co., WA, daughter of George Torrence (I, Bonst-1) Bonstein and Nellie Esther (Gilk-1a) (Gillock) Bonstein.

Notes for Ernest Thedore (**G-1) Gilpin
    Genetic information:
Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Cupp MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Y-Haplogroup
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a
~~~~~~
died of complications of prostate cancer surgury, buried Evergreen Cemetery, Ft Scott, Kansas.
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In 1920 Ernest is single, living with his parents at 1101 East Oak Street in Fort Scott, Kansas and working as a machinist helper in the railroad industry.
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In 1930 Ernest is married to Margaret and living at 116 N. Caldwell in Fort Scott, Kansas. Ernest is working as a "machinist-railroad".
Living in Fort Scott, Kansas in 1932.
Living in Fort Scott, Kansas in 1973.
Buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Fort Scott, Kansas.
~~~~~~~~~   
Name: Ernest Gilpin Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1902 Birthplace: Kansas Relation to head-of-house: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Gilpin Race: White, Home in 1930: Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas
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Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925
about Ernest T Gilpin
Name: Ernest T Gilpin
Census Date: 1925
Residence County: Bourbon
Residence state: Kansas
Locality: Fort Scott
Birth Location: Kansas
Family Number: 3
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Race: White
Relation: Head
Line: 25
Roll: KS1925_10
Spouse's Name: Margeret L Gilpin
Household Member(s): Name Age
Ernest T Gilpin 23
Margeret L Gilpin 22 b. Kansas -  about 1903
Mary J Gilpin 1 b. Ft. Scott, Kansas - about 1924
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1930 census index (ancestry.com)
Name: Ernest Gilpin
Home in 1930: Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
BirthPlace: Kansas
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Margaret
Race: White
Ernest Gilpin 28
Margaret Gilpin 27
Mary Jane Gilpin 6
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Nelllie B. Bonstein and Father Ernest T. Gilpin seperated in 1952, I believe.
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Notes for Margaret Lousia (Maggie, G-1b) Gardner
    1930 census
Name: Margaret Gilpin Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1903 Relation to head-of-house: Wife Spouse's Name: Ernest Gilpin Home in 1930: Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas.
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Notes for Nellie (**Bonst-1a) Bonstein
    Genetic information: Father's  Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Y-Haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3
Genetic lineages:
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Genetic information:  MTDNA haplogroup H3
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Mother Nelllie B. Bonstein and Father Ernest T. Gilpin seperated in 1952, I believe.
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died of interstititual pnuemonitis
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Name: Nellie Bonstein
Age: 3 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1917
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Race: White
Home in 1920: Bald Hill, Okmulgee, Oklahoma
Sex: Female
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana
Father's Birth Place: Kansas
Image: 863
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Note from my sister Lolita G. Swift as told by our Mother.
Sometime between the age of 16 when she left home and the age of 19 when she married our father: Mom was hired by Hallmark cards as an artist, but quit after one week; they had put her into a room by herself and she couldn't think of anything to draw.
She also auditioned for a chorus line.. Mom was so flat chested she wanting to make a good impression stuffed her bra with tissue and while she was dancing the tissue came flying out, She didn't get the job..
Going back in time to when Mom was in school She was accepted and attended the first school in Oklahoma for advanced studies. It was called a class for gifted students. Education: High School, Some college courses

1959/1960 She was president of the Grays Harbor (Washington State) Chapter of young Democrats. She met John F. and Jacky Kennedy, while he was in Washington state campaining.
She moved to San Jose, CA in about 1960 where she worked at Hewlett- Packard Company doing final engraving on instruments. She bought a house in San Jose, CA, where she lived until about 1971. Mother then became to ill to work and moved to McCleary, WA. During 1971/1972 sometime she took a trip to Spain with the funds from the sale of her home. She took her sister Helen Murray with her.   
Divorced Jan 1971 (from second husband)
California Divorce Index, 1966-1984
THIS IS NELLIE BONSTEIN
about Kellie Bonstein
Name: Kellie Bonstein
Spouse Name: Archibal H McMurphy
Location: Santa Clara
Date: Jan 1971
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Washington Death Index, 1940-1996
about Nellie D McMurphy
Name: Nellie D McMurphy
[Nellie B. McMurphy]
[Nellie B. McMurphy Gilpin Bonstein]
Date of Death: 16 Jun 1974
Place of Death: Seattle
RESIDENCE: Grays Harbor
Gender: Female
Certificate: 012989
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    Children of Ernest Thedore (**G-1) Gilpin and Margaret Lousia (Maggie, G-1b) Gardner were as follows:
    93    i    Mary Jane (Jaquelene, G1a)7 Gilpin, born 4 Aug 1923 in Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; died 20 Nov 2009 in Chula Vista, CA.  She married (1) 1st marriage, divorced  FNU (G-1b) Surnameunk, born in She never mentioned his name; (2) on 23 Mar 1946 in widowed Jacob Johnson (Jake, G1b) Kendall, born 16 Dec 1915 in unknown; died 21 Jan 1990 in Califorina, USA; (3) Spring 2003 or 2004 Richard (G-1b) Haenel.   Notes: Genetic information:  Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown Mother's Gardner MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Y-Haplogroup unknown Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~ Name: Mary Jane Gilpin Age: 6  Estimated birth year: abt 1924  Relation to head-of- house: Daughter  Father's Name: Ernest Gilpin  Mother's Name: Margaret Gilpin  Home in 1930: Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas  ~~~~~~~ Mary Jane (Jacquelene) Gilpin Mary Jane was married before Jake to whom ?  ~~~~~~~ Janie told me this story herself. On the phone in the summer of 1999. She and Jake were going overseas, and she needed a birth certificate. When she finally recieved the certificate she found her birth certificate had her name listed as Jaquelene, not Mary Jane. She went to school, married both times, had jobs, and paid taxes as Mary Jane, she chose to remain Mary Jane.  ~~~~~~~ Mary Jane developed MS later in life, Rich her third husband loved her and waited on her hand and foot.. Lolita and I recieved an email from brother John that Janie had died  no real explanations. I called Cousin Peggy (Dad's sister's daughter) and was told: They were found dead the week before Thanksgiving in the bathroom of their house. She was on the toilet he was kneeling beside her. It appeared  they had simultaneous heart attacks.  ~~~~~~~~~~

    Children of Ernest Thedore (**G-1) Gilpin and Nellie (**Bonst-1a) Bonstein were as follows:
    94    i    John Thomas (G-1)7 Gilpin, born 1936/37 in unknown/; died 1936/37 in unknown, child stillborn.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown Mother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~ My sister Lolita says Mother told her about this child who was stilborn. She stated Mother stated Dad (Ernest) insisted that this child be named John Thomas Gilpin. There was a burial, but where is unknown. Dad was working for the railroad and where they were at the time is unknown. It  may be possible to locate the town by back tracking Dad's work history with the railroad. ~~~~~~
+    95    ii    John Thomas (G-1)7 Gilpin, born May 1938 in Montebello, Los Angles Co., CA.  He married Maria Soccro (G-1b) (Gonzales) Gilpin.
+    96    iii    Lolita (G-1a)7 Gilpin, born 1 Aug 1940 in Montebello, Los Angles Co., CA.  She married Lynwood George (G-1b) Tucker.
+    97    iv    Nelda Lorraine7 Gilpin, born 19 Feb 1945 in Ft. Scott, Kansas, USA.  She married (1) Father unknown surnameunk; (2) Paul James (Jr.) Hoover; (3) Gary Dennis White; (4) Mark Rory Jackson; (5) Patrick Alfredo Percival; (6) Orland Edward (Sr adopted - Kraiger, G-1b)) Marsh.


85. Harry Melton (G-1)6 Gilpin (Joseph Marshall (G1-17)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 21 Jun 1896 in Missouri, USA; died 4 Mar 1980 in Overland Park, Ka.  He married in Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS Ethalinda (Linda, G-1b) (Gardner) Gilpin, born 7 Aug 1900 in Ft Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; died 21 Nov 1983, daughter of William A. Gardner and Mary Catherine (Nelson) Gardner.

Notes for Harry Melton (G-1) Gilpin
    Genetic information: Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown.
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a
~~~~~~
Roanoke Presbyterian Church, Kansas City, Mo
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    Children of Harry Melton (G-1) Gilpin and Ethalinda (Linda, G-1b) Gardner were as follows:
    98    i    Dorothy Louise (G1a)7 Gilpin, born 9 Dec 1925.  She married on 11 Oct 1947 John Leroy (G-1b) Marshall, born 1 May 1923; died 6 Jul 1988.


86. Bessie M. (G-1a)6 Gilpin (James Wesley (G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 1899 in Kansas.  She married Frederick V. (G-1b) Jones, born 1906 in Colorado.

Notes for Bessie M. (G-1a) Gilpin
    Genetic information:
Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown. Mother's father's haplogroup unknown
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a
~~~~~~

Notes for Frederick V. (G-1b) Jones
    1920 United States Federal Census
about Bessie Jones
Name: Bessie Jones
Home in 1920: Sparks, Washoe, Nevada
Age: 21 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Kansas
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Frederick V
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 511
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick V Jones 24
Bessie Jones 21

    Children of Bessie M. (G-1a) Gilpin and Frederick V. (G-1b) Jones were as follows:
    99    i    Virginia (G1a)7 Jones, born 1921 in Sparks, Nevada, USA.

Generation 7

90. Chester Marion (G-1a)7 Eskew (Frank Marion (G-1a)6, Sarah Ann (G1a)5 Gilpin, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 5 Jul 1910 in Carmel Hamilton Co., IN; died 15 Jun 1985 in Fernandia Beach, Nassau Co., Fl.  He married on 6 Jul 1943 in Hillsborough Co., Fl Carol Louise (G-1b) (Ankerman) Eskew, born 4 Mar 1911 in Buffalo, Erie Co., NY; died 2001 or 2002 in Gainesville, FL, daughter of George Henry Ankerman and Marietta Carol (Bernard) Ankerman.

Notes for Chester Marion (G-1a) Eskew
    Genetic information: (Gilpin lineages only)
Eskew and Brown Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown
Gilpin Y-dna haplogroup  R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com).
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231a, Unk-??a, Don-1a
~~~~~~
buried on the Island - Fernandia Beach, Nassau Co., Fl
according to cousin Robert Henderson/ Eskew his father is buried on the island. Robert also states his father remarried and that he has a half brother he never met.
~~~~~~

    Children of Chester Marion (G-1a) Eskew and Carol Louise (G-1b) Ankerman were as follows:
    100    i    Robert Chester (Henderson, G1a)8 Eskew, born 27 Oct 1946 in Tampa, Hillsborough Co., Fl.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin lineages only)  Eskew, Brown and Ankerman Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown  Gilpin Y-dna haplogroup  R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com). Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231a, Unk-??a, Don-1a ~~~~~~ Adopted by stepfather, Henderson 1959, from Robert: I worked hard on tracing the Eskew/Askew family that I want to leave the trail for others to follow and correct in the future. my research is here: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=peg2&id=I24  ~~~~~~~~~~ Robert has an older Brother and Sister both live in Florida one near Gainsville and I think one in Tampa, FL. He hasn't ever told me their names...nlp served in the military - I believe US Army? had prostrate cancer, hospital is VA Hospital at Gainsville, FL.  ~~~~~~~~~~~


91. Margaret L. (Peggy Ann) (G1a)7 Meyers (Bessie L (Mae, G1a)6 Gilpin, John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born in Missouri, USA.  She married Albert Hestwood (G-1b) Carson.

Notes for Margaret L. (Peggy Ann) (G1a) Meyers
    Genetic information:
Meyer Father's Y-dna haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown,
Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com)
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, Cup-1a
~~~~~~

    Children of Margaret L. (Peggy Ann) (G1a) Meyers and Albert Hestwood (G-1b) Carson were as follows:
    101    i    Bradley (G-1a)8 Carson.   Notes: Genetic information:  Carson Father's Y-dna haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown,  Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com) Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, Cup-1a  ~~~~~~
    102    ii    Barry Joseph (G-1a)8 Carson.   Notes: Genetic information:  Carson Father's Y-dna haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown,  Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com) Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, Cup-1a  ~~~~~~


92. Martha Jo (G-1a)7 Gilpin (John Raymond (G-1)6, John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 10 Aug 1921 in Fort Scott, Bourbon Co., KS; died 1 Jun 1984 in Santa Barbara, CA.  She married During WWII in Rome, Italy Jack (G-1b) Kemp, born Est 1920 in England.

Notes for Martha Jo (G-1a) Gilpin
    Genetic information:
Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Stalnacher  MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Y-Haplogroup unknown
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a
~~~~~~
Ca death info 1940- 1997
KEMP, MARTHA JO FEMALE 08/10/1921 06/01/1984 KANSAS SANTA BARBARA 370169335 STALNAKER, GILPIN,
Researched by me... Nelda
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Served with the Wacs in WWII, served N.Africa and then Italy where she met and married Jack Kemp husband
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Notes for Jack (G-1b) Kemp
    served with the Bitiish Army WWII served in Italy, owns a New Car sales Company in England then in Santa Barbara, CA.
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    Children of Martha Jo (G-1a) Gilpin and Jack (G-1b) Kemp were as follows:
    103    i    Susie (G-1a)8 Kemp, died died - date unknown in Califorina, USA.  She married Jeff (G-1b) Culver.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin blood lineages only)  Kemp Father's  Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com) Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~ died of breast cancer
    104    ii    Jeffery (G-1a)8 Kemp.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin blood lineages only)  Kemp Father's  Y-haplogroup unknown, MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's MTDNA haplogroup unknown, Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com) Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~


95. John Thomas (G-1)7 Gilpin (Ernest Thedore (**G-1)6, John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born May 1938 in Montebello, Los Angles Co., CA.  He married on 31 Jan 1960 in California, USA Maria Soccro (G-1b) (Gonzales) Gilpin.

Notes for John Thomas (G-1) Gilpin
    Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages)
Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown
Mother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a
~~~~~~
John served in the Air Force (late 1950's)

    Children of John Thomas (G-1) Gilpin and Maria Soccro (G-1b) Gonzales were as follows:
    105    i    John Thomas (Jr.,G-1)8 Gilpin.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown GrandMother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown Gonzales genetics unknown Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~
    106    ii    Edward Scott (G-1)8 Gilpin.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown GrandMother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown Gonzales genetics unknown Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~
    107    iii    Valorie Anne (G-1a)8 Gilpin.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown GrandMother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown Gonzales genetics unknown Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a ~~~~~~


96. Lolita (G-1a)7 Gilpin (Ernest Thedore (**G-1)6, John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 1 Aug 1940 in Montebello, Los Angles Co., CA.  She married on 7 Jul 1961, divorced  Lynwood George (G-1b) Tucker.

Notes for Lolita (G-1a) Gilpin
    Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages)
Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown
Mother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a,  Bonst-1a
~~~~~~

    Children of Lolita (G-1a) Gilpin and Lynwood George (G-1b) Tucker were as follows:
    108    i    Nelda Lynne (Epps, G-1a)8 Tucker.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown GrandMother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown Father's Tucker line unk. Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a, Bonst-1a ~~~~~~


97. Nelda Lorraine7 Gilpin (Ernest Thedore (**G-1)6, John Thomas (**G-1)5, John G. (**G-1)4, Thomas (**G17-1)3, Thomas (**G17-1)2, John (**G1-17)1), born 19 Feb 1945 in Ft. Scott, Kansas, USA.  She married (1) Not married Father unknown surnameunk; (2) on 24 Jul 1961 in Renton, King Co., Washington, USA, divorced  Paul James (Jr.) Hoover, born 13 Jun 1931 in Rome, Iowa, USA; died 5 Sep 2008 in Wamego, Pottawatomie Co., KS, son of Paul James (Sr) Hoover and Flora Mable (Tawzer) Hoover; (3) in May 1963 in McCleary, Washington, USA, divorced  Gary Dennis White, born 1 Aug 1940 in Montesano, Grays Harbor Co., WA, son of Roy Alvin White and Nellie MNU (White) White; (4) on 9 Nov 1973 in Ft Sam Houston, Bexar Co.,  TX (On base), divorced  Mark Rory Jackson, born abt 1953 in Colorado, USA; (5) on 20 Dec 1974 in Florance, SC, By a Federal Judge, divorced  Patrick Alfredo Percival, born abt 1935 in St Croix, Virgin Islands,USA; (6) in Nov 1978 in Ft Polk, LA, USA (On base), divorced  Orland Edward (Sr adopted - Kraiger, G-1b)) Marsh, born 5 Jun 1943 in Mt Pleasant, MI, son of Ralph Authur (Sr. G-1b) Marsh and Mary Elizabeth (Campbell) Marsh.

Notes for Nelda Lorraine Gilpin
    Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages)
Father's  Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), MTDNA haplogroup unknown
Mother's Gillock MTDNA haplogroup H3, Mother's Father's Bonstein Y-Haplogroup unknown
Genetic lineages: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a, Bonst-1a
~~~~~~
Military Service: SSGT, E-6, US Army retired with Medical 13 1/2 yrs
Religion: Episcopalian, First Methodist
AAS in Commercial Art & Advertisement 1999 Texas State Techinical College, Waco TX

Notes for Father unknown surnameunk
    Supposed father - Gene Amrin: Met Jean while living in Westport, Washingtn. We dated for several months during the late summer and fall of 1960. Gene/Jean worked as a sheet metal bender on the digestion tanks at Raineer Pulp Mill in Hoquiam, Washington. He lived in I think it was Aberdeen, WA. Being young and foolish I never knew much about him. I believe he was 26, but he thought I was 18. (I was 15.) He was also blond hair and blue eyed.
    
    That's about all I can tell my son.
    
    Supposed father - Punky Henderson Hendrickson or spelled with sen? Name unknown for sure. Story : When I lived at Westport Washington, my friend Edith Pringle and I went to Aberdeen and met a friend of hers who was married and had  two or three children, all under four if I remember right, all blond and blue eyed... anyway her husband was a US Armry vet who was returning from Vietnum. he lost his leg (right, I think and above the knee). Anyway a few weeks later while i was working as a waitress at a joint on the docks at Wesport, Washington in walked the husband Punky, they had agured and I gave him a place to sleep the night in the shed behind the house I lived in with my mom...The next morning before going to school I went out and woke him up so he could leave before he got caught there. Things just happened and we had sex.
    
    Since this happened while I was dating Gene, I do not know who is my son's father. I wish I could help him figure it out. I need to know too.
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Notes for Paul James (Jr.) Hoover
    I met Paul after Robert was born we married with in the month. During the first summer we moved to MO, during this time Robert caught menigitius.. Robert got well and we moved back to Renton, WA. My Mother who had been in Seattle with me during my pregnancy, had moved to CA. I moved there when I left Paul. I lived with my mother after Paul and I seperated. I found out a few months later that I was PG and told Paul about it, he came to San Jose to see me, and  asked me to come back I said no. He divorced me
Divorce 1962, King County, Washington, I was served papers in the hospital where/when James was born.
Paul was arristed for non child support payments and went to court with new wife,  he paid about 2 yrs and stoped. Paul, told everyone I was unfaithful, but I swear on my Mother's soul I was never unfaithful to Paul. James is his blood son. nlp
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Paul James Jr Hoover and Nelda Lorraine Gilpin
First Name: Paul
Middle Name: James Jr
Last Name: Hoover
Gender: Male
Spouse First Name:  Nelda
Spouse Middle Name:  Lorraine
Spouse Last Name:  Gilpin
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Date: Jul 24, 1961
Marriage Location: Washington
Marriage County: King
Record Type: Marriage Record
Reference Number: kingcoarchmc252531
Collection: Washington Marriage Records
Hard Copy Certificate 
Source Information 
Source: Washington State Digital Archives
Years: 1905 - 2008
Description: This collection of Washington marriage records was compiled by the Washington State Digital Archives, and covers years 1905-2008.
Address: 960 Washington Street Cheney, WA 99004
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Notes for Gary Dennis White
    Divorced Aug.,1971, Vale Co., OR; He remarried Wanda Edminson, His daughter Heather was born Jan 1972.
I was unfaithful to Gary, Once... but he never forgave me and neither did I. I believe we started pulling apart after the death of our daughter Nelliena Patrica White. I had nightmares almost everynight for about 5 years. Gary was working out of town, and I needed someone to lean on he wasn't there. I harrased Wanda every chance I got, until I left town.
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Notes for Mark Rory Jackson
    We married on base, during AIT TRAINING (Medics - 91Bs) we were both assigned to Ft Bragg, NC and after an arguement on Christmas Day, I left him and moved back into the WAC barracks and he went AWOL. Haven't heard from him since.
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Mark R Jackson and Nelda L GilpinFirst Name: Mark
Middle Name: R
Last Name: Jackson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1953
Age: 20
Spouse First Name:  Nelda
Spouse Middle Name:  L
Spouse Last Name:  Gilpin
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Birth Date: 1945
Spouse Age: 28
Marriage Date: Nov 9, 1973
Marriage Location: Bexar, TX
Record Type: Marriage Record
Certificate Number: 121572
Collection: Texas Marriage Records
Hard Copy Certificate 
Source Information 
Source: Texas Department of State Health Services
Years: 1966 to 2008
Description: This collection of Texas marriage records was provided by the Texas Department of State Health Services. It contains data from 1966-2008.
Address: PO Box 149347, Austin, Texas 78714-9347

Notes for Patrick Alfredo Percival
    Patrick and I were married 1974 in Florence, S.C. at the Federal Bldg by federal Judge, because we were a mixes couple, no one would marry us.  He was born in St Croix, Virgin Islands. we were divorced 1978. Occupation US Army retired SSG. Patrict retired from the Army in Atlanta, GA. He was an E5 / SGT. Last time I checked he was still living there.
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Patrick A Percival and Nelda L
First Name: Patrick
Middle Name: A
Last Name: Percival
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1935
Age: 43
Spouse First Name:  Nelda
Spouse Middle Name:  L
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Birth Date: 1945
Spouse Age: 33
Marriage Date: Dec 20, 1974
Divorce Date: Nov 3, 1978
Divorce Location: Hardin, TX
Record Type: Divorce Record
Certificate Number: 071152
Collection: Texas Divorce Records
Hard Copy Certificate 
Source Information 
Source: Texas Department of State Health Services
Years: 1968 to 2008
Description: This collection of Texas divorce records was provided by the Texas Department of State Health Services. It contains data from 1968-2008.
Address: PO Box 149347, Austin, Texas 78714-9347
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Notes for Orland Edward (Sr adopted - Kraiger, G-1b)) Marsh
    son of Paul Kraiger & Mary Elizabeth Campbell, we married 12 Nov 1978 in Ft Polk, LA, Div 1981 in OK. Born 5 Jun 1943 in Mt Pleasant, MI. They were divorced 1981. Occupation US Army in 1981, Is now working as a Security Guard, IN. Research adopted by Mother's second husband Ralph Marsh. in 1945. Ed has remarried several times. He is currently married and has just had a new daughter.. 2007.
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    Children of Nelda Lorraine Gilpin and Father unknown surnameunk were as follows:
    109    i    Robert Lee (G-1a)8 Gilpin, born 8 Jun 1961 in Swedish Hospital, Seattle, Kin g Co., Washington.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Unknown Father's Hapolgroup:  I1 or short hand L-64, tested at FTDNA; MTDNA haplogroup H3 Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3(tested at 23andme. Genetic lineages: Father unknown lineage -   Mother's Genetic Lineage: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a Bonst-1a ~~~~~~ Baptized : 1969 in St Joseph Esp., Tacoma, WA Went to Japan with Mother in 1977. Graduated Pickering High School, Leesville, LA 1980.Some college courses, Served in the Navy 1980 - 1983. Honorable discharge. Divorced, no children from this union. ~~~~ Possible child from a Girl he went to School with. Pickering High School, Leesville, LA, USA, He got a letter, wrote her back,  then never heard anything more...

    Children of Nelda Lorraine Gilpin and Paul James (Jr.) Hoover were as follows:
    110    i    James Theadore (G-1a)8 Hoover.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) Hoover Father's Y- Hapolgroup: unknown, your MTDNA haplogroup H3 Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3(tested at 23andme.) Hoover Genetic lineages not followed  Mother's Genetic Lineage: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a Bonst-1a
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    Children of Nelda Lorraine Gilpin and Gary Dennis White were as follows:
    111    i    Machell LeAnn (G-1a)8 White.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) White Father's Y- Hapolgroup: unknown, your MTDNA haplogroup H3 Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3(tested at 23andme.) White Genetic lineages not followed  Mother's Genetic Lineage: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a Bonst-1a
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    112    ii    un-named (Stillborn, G-1a)8 White, born 1 Apr 1965 in St. Joseph Hospital, Aberdeen, Grays Harbor Co., WA; died 1 Apr 1965 in St. Joseph Hospital, Aberdeen, Grays Harbor Co., WA.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) White Father's Y- Hapolgroup: unknown, your MTDNA haplogroup H3 Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3(tested at 23andme.) White Genetic lineages not followed  Mother's Genetic Lineage: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a Bonst-1a
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In my head I have always refered to her as Janet, but she was unnamed...NLP
    113    iii    Nelliena Patrica (G1a)8 White, born 23 Sep 1966 in Olympia, Wa; died 27 Dec 1966 in at home, Elma, Grays Harbor Co., WA; buried 30 Dec 1966 in Elma cemetery, between Elma and Mc Cleary, WA. on old road.   Notes: Genetic information: (Gilpin and Bonstein genetic lineages) White Father's Y- Hapolgroup: unknown, your MTDNA haplogroup H3 Mother's Father's Gilpin Y-haplogroup R1b1a2a/ (R-L23, at FamilyTreeDNA.com), Mother's MTDNA haplogroup H3(tested at 23andme.) White Genetic lineages not followed  Mother's Genetic Lineage: G-1& G-17, Unk-??a, Fletcr-1a, VanH-1a, GFA-231, Unk-??a, Don-1a, Cup-1a Bonst-1a
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Nelliena, was born in a hospital in Olympia, Washington. I had gone in for an amniocentese test. The results were so bad they started induction Immediatly. Nelliena had seven complete blood tranfusions. She didn't leave the hospital for several months. But she had been given a clean bill of health and died with in one or two months of comming home, from SIDDS.  she was in her bassnet beside our bed, when I woke up, and took her out of her bed, she was still warm. I tried resussition, and closed heart message nothing worked.. This is where Gary and my problems started, we never shared our loss with each other. I had nightmares for years afterwards, and he never knew. I never felt comforted by him and looked to someone else for comfort when he was gone so long at work after we moved to Ontario, Oregon. after being unfaithful I did not feel worthy of Gary and pushed him away from me.. For years I suffered, and became a control freek, wanting everything to be under control, that way, nothing like that could ever happen again.  I still to this day regret how I responded to "Our" loss. It caused a lot of problems latter in life.
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Died of SIDS
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Washington Death Index, 1940-1996  about Nelliena P White  Name: Nelliena P White  Date of Death: 27 Dec 1966  Place of Death: Grays Harbor  RESIDENCE: Grays Harbor Gender:  Female Certificate: 026900 
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